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Fishing for Muskies with live bait
February 13, 2009
6:27 pm
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Came across this article, and really sort of got a little angry! I know fishing for muskies with live bait is legal, they're pretty much condoning fishing with light weight tackle..weakening the muskie . I'm certainly no expert, but giving anglers the idea, to go muskie fishing with pretty much what they have already and try not to let the muskie swallow the minnow... Are you kidding, most first timers , will let that reel clicker go off and wait to set the hook, thereby having a better then normal chance of having her swallow the bait. Maybe it's just me!

http://www.fish.state.pa.us/pa.....aiting.htm

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February 13, 2009
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You gotta be kidding me! This is the way our State promotes muskie fishing? Why do local clubs have more knowledge then our own government? These idiots went through years of college to come up with this!!! I know its legel to use the live bait, but to promote it that you "should" use it instead of lures and to just use walleye and bass set-ups is retarded! And "NOT" to use steel leaders or any at that matter because your "odds" are better? Come on! So as a club we're promoting muskie fishing the way we are and to have the State doing the opposite. Great! Later on... I got to go check my blood pressure now!

ITS NOT THE SIZE OF YOUR BOAT
ITS THE SIZE OF WHATS ON YOUR BUMPBOARD!
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February 13, 2009
7:49 pm
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Hey,

Now I ice fish for muskies, with live bait, and I will also fish for them in rivers, when the weather is too cold to cast, with live bait. But the rigs I use will always include a wire leader and the hits are attended to immediately. Granted the risk still exists that the fish will be hooked deep but then again, even with using lures, there is no guarantee that the fish will survive the experience.
As far as using too light an equipment set up, no way! My tip ups are spooled with heavy weight nylon/dacron line, plus the wire leader and the rods are either my regular musky baitcast rods/reels or my heavy duty catfish spincast rod/reels, again with wire leaders. The only change I may make to either set up is that I may go to flurocarbon leaders.
This may not set well with everyone in the club but these two methods are not only, in my opinion, done with forethought and attention to the musky's welfare but they also allow me time on the water when everyone else is couped up inside dealing with cabin fever.

DL

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February 13, 2009
8:50 pm
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there's nothing wrong with fishing live bait as long as its properly done,with the right set up's.
quick strike rigs are a must, there are no exceptions.imo.but what the state says its a bunch of horse crap.maybe thats one of the reasons they stock 4 inch muskies bc they dont know any better.
thanks for getting me all fired up george
tim j

February 13, 2009
9:16 pm
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You guys should of came to the meeting last night and this could of been addressed... I think it needs to be taken off or re-writen properly.. I personally don't fish live bait, but can be very effective when done properly..

February 14, 2009
2:22 am
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The article is dated sept 1996.Oh thee times have changed!

February 14, 2009
3:44 am
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a BIG help is using those circle hooks, unless the bait gets in the stomach, thats waiting really long.ha ha the hook always seems to hit the corner of the mouth! WEIRD! i only use artificial, but like u guys said when done properly it is catchin!

February 14, 2009
7:10 am
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As Bob stated a lot has changed since 1996. Anyone that uses live bait for muskies needs to know the right and wrond way to employ it. As Tim stated a quick strike rig is a must and there are even better rigs out there than the QSR's. I would stay away from the circles as they do deep hook fish even though they are not supposed to. The circles are easily swallowed down and then wind up hooking somewhere down inside the gullet. I've had this happen with all varieties of fish and only use them when regulations force me to as in the Delaware river for stripers. I hate them, personally as I don't feel that they come in a big enough size with a thin enough hook to be used effectively.

I would use the largest treble that you can get into your bait and set immediately. The larger the treble the less likely that it will be ingested.

February 14, 2009
2:22 pm
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That's the biggest problem though Dave, for guys in our club, or avid muskie anglers, we wouldn't normally fish this way ( live bait), but the novice fisherman, they see this article coming from the State, and thinks that's a perfectly acceptable way to fish for muskies. That's the thing that pisses me off!
Like a couple guys here mentioned, if it's an old (1996) article, than maybe this should be taken off the site and updated. With all the strides we've made with education about C&R , it generally makes me sick to see this.
Seb, If I would have #1 seen this article earlier, and #2 knew of this meeting, I would definitely had gone to that meeting. Moreover, we should have had a group of guys go to express our concerns over this.

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February 15, 2009
1:52 am
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Good job Dave, thanks for helping me learn of problems people have with different types of fishing. the people i know that have used them,circle hooks. they tell me they love em. I deffinitly see how fish could swallow everything in 1 shot. I should probably throw out stuff i know 1st hand. Sorry bait fishin guys for some bad info! I only fish artificial ! even cats, mostly fishin for something else. thanks again!! Bait stinks! ha ha ha

February 15, 2009
6:21 am
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Ron, there is no right and wrong with circles. Some guys love them but I have had some badly deep hooked cow stripers that I would have been able to remove a "J" hook from. With the circles they wind up upside down inside the fish if they are deep hooked and the only option was to cut them. I am not a proponent of releasing big fish with hooks inside them. There are places that mandate their use and I will use them there but I "set up" on the fish immediately. They have their place in the fishing world and certainly do hook the majority of fish in the side or the jaw. It's just that one that doesn't.....wouldn't want that to be a big musky.

DL pretty much nailed it here. If you're gonna do it....do it right.

I am all for writing to the powers that be that published this article and asking them to replace it or remove it. Who do I contact, George?

February 16, 2009
4:03 am
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Dave thanks again for the feed back, u used some 75 cent words in there, caught me off guard! ha ha. oh yeah, how where you holding that camera for the pic photo? ha ha ha Have a Great PRES DAY! see ya Ron ha ha

February 16, 2009
11:08 am
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Great article! They should have explained the right way to fillet the musky along with cooking recipes. Seriously, most fresh water fishermen will fail and give up trying to catch a musky. Not that easy just because someone uses live bait and especially in the dark. At least this is what I am hoping.

February 16, 2009
1:37 pm
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This meeting was posted on the site for over a month so everyone should have seen it.. http://mi50.com/smf/index.php?.....pic=3012.0

If Ed makes the 2/25 maybe he can bring this issue up..

February 16, 2009
7:12 pm
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Sebskie wrote:
This meeting was posted on the site for over a month so everyone should have seen it.. http://mi50.com/smf/index.php?.....pic=3012.0

If Ed makes the 2/25 maybe he can bring this issue up..

I hope so. I don't think that anyone thought about this article prior to the meeting that you had attended, Seb, or they would have attended or at least prompted you to let the commission know how we feel. Just bad timing....

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