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Damaged Baits from Muskie Max Show. Pissed off
May 31, 2016
5:58 pm
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Mike D
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So I picked up 3 crank baits for $50 at the Muskie Max show, which looked like a good deal. I "believed" that these are tough shads but not certain. I used them 3 or 4 times in the spring and didn't have any issues. Used them in the tournament and left them in my boat over the last 10 days of hot weather. Pulled them out Sunday to find them split open right down the middle. One of them on the belly and the other on the back. Did anyone else buy any of these at the show?

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May 31, 2016
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its the hot weather, I had a COBB that was extremely rare and of course he aint around any more had my bucket 0' baits in my car went to get em out and the cobb was destroyed! what happens is they will take on some water even if they are sealed correctly then the heat expands the damp wood causing splitting, its shitty I have a couple that look like that ......"musky law" !!!!

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May 31, 2016
6:21 pm
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Treigh, yea I'm very familiar with what happens to poorly sealed wood baits. I've built lots of bass and Striper baits. These are not wood but some type of foam/plastic inside. Ya get what ya pay for. ::)

May 31, 2016
6:26 pm
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WHATTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!! so those are the recent tuff shads? the plastic ones? that real bad damn yea get what you pay for except for dadsons and lake x lures pay out the wazooo and can only catch bass on em

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May 31, 2016
7:38 pm
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Like I posted, "I believed were tough shads". I think I was duped.

May 31, 2016
8:58 pm
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they look Identical

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June 1, 2016
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Try contacting the builder, maybe they will stand beefing the bait and send you new ones? If they where my baits I'd like to inspect them to see if the issue was on my end so to prevent it from happening again.

June 1, 2016
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I had a bucher rattletrap that did the same thing.

June 1, 2016
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Weird, I'm wondering if they epoxied over the paint before it was dried completely? I would try and contact the guy you bought them from.

June 1, 2016
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Fred picked up a couple of the big custom x baits, they are made of a similar material inside. The one did the same thing as your baits and split down the side. We only ran in for 30mins the day after the show. So possibly it's a problem with the resin that's being used?

June 1, 2016
12:44 pm
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Guys on Muskies1st say it happens frequently to plastic baits due to heat. ::) These are tough shad... Not very tough. I mean it hit the 80's for a week and they blow up like this? I've had 10 different brands of hard baits in my boat in the heat and this never happened. I did like the size and action of the baits. They ran very true and deep for a smaller bait. I think I'll repair the one split on top with some epoxy but using the other would risk the belly hook pulling out on a fish. Doubt I'll risk it. Live and learn.

June 1, 2016
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When you burn toast at your house do you write letters to the bread company or the toaster company.....2016, the year of no self responsibility.

Half my believers split, two of my 3 new kodiaks too. My fault. Shit happens.

220...., 221...., Whatever it takes.

June 1, 2016
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But if it's a flaw in the bait, I'd like to at least know the maker would stand behind his work. There's a difference between improper use or storage and poor quality. I mean let's face it we are not all rich and when we do go out on a limb and buy a high dollar bait, you'd like to know with the price tag comes the craftsmanship and quality. I am also a believer in you get what you pay for. ;D

June 1, 2016
6:46 pm
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Thanks for bringing the heat thing to our attention, I had no clue this could happen to baits. I'd still contact the maker just to see what they have to say, maybe they can offer an explanation as to why this happens.

June 1, 2016
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Had it happen to a hot tail (wood) Anthony stood behind his bait and resealed and painted it no charge caught a fish on it the next week! Shit does happen but a phone call wouldn't hurt.

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June 1, 2016
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I've never had a single bait do this in 6 years of muskie fishing, so why would I think it would happen now with a week of 80 degree weather? Now I know some baits can't take the heat so now I'll take responsibility. Peacock, the toast didn't burn, the bread sucks ;D

June 1, 2016
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you must of gotten lucky Ive had a hand full of baits do this, I don't think its possible for mantas to split LMAO

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June 1, 2016
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Hollow body are the main culprit for exploding, these, jakes, believer all have gone in my boat. My new kodiaks went in direct sun, not in any kind of box. Customs with a ton of epoxy on them are the 2nd worst for splits. Every material on the planet expands in heat, especially worse in direct sunlight, which will be 15 degrees on avg hotter than temp for the day. Tuffshad website, heat warning at the bottom...

and i forgot the ploppers too, 4/5 split, in a box, below deck not even in sunlight.

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June 2, 2016
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I did see the site warning after the fact. Bought these hanging off a rack at the show so no warning when purchased. I'll live

June 6, 2016
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It is still a good FYI for others. Maximum destruction happens in the Plano portable style boxes. Solid foam resins [ like Mike Richardson uses] least likely to swell, split or twist . I have a few "cool" looking Rebels, Cordells, Manns, Bombers that split or warped in a single day .

Let 'em go .   RIP Jack  Burns

June 30, 2016
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i had a not so tough-shad come apart on me as well...

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