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lure color and type question??
November 29, 2007
3:17 am
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Hi,

We touched on this on the other thread. But, what are everyone’s thoughts on lure color vs. lure type.

What about having 5-10 of the exact same lures with varying colors. Or, having the same color pattern in 5-10 different lure types.

From my experience, the color is more important for muskies, one particular color pattern will produce more fish than others on the exact same lure.

On the other hand, (for example) if fire tiger is working one day, wouldn’t any similar lure with the same color pattern also work?

When a certain lure type and color is working one day (and you change up for whatever reason), do you have better success using that same lure in various colors, or stick with that same color in other types of lures?

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November 29, 2007
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I would say that if you asked 100 professional musky guides what is more important color or action, the response hands down would be action. For instance, is it more important to find the right color whether it is jerkbait, crankbait, topwater, bucktail?? Or is it more important to find the right action. To me hands down it is the action. Once the action is narrowed down, color becomes the key. Look at the success in the midwest with Double Cowgirls and DC10. The key is the giant blades and skirt / then the color pattern. As long as you were fishing big giant bucktails, you were ok.The key at that point was narrowing down the color. Jerkbaits, crankbaits, twitchbait don't even see the water. Action was everything. And I think you cannot dispute the success of those baits!! Once the water cools, big rubber becomes the key.

For us, our fish seem to like erratic twitch baits and gliders once the water gets cold. Get the action down then get the color. Regarding the success of one bait in one color versus the same bait in another. It may have been the color, or perhaps, that bait simply had a wobble slightly different than the other ones. Maybe it suspended more due to weight. Maybe it had a slightly wider roll or ran a little different. Most lures in the exact same style run a little different from each other. It is amazing how 1 lure seems to work great, but other baits exactly like it don't have the same success. I used to see it with bass spinnerbaits all the time and to me it was something unique with the blades, hence the action.

Therefore, to me, it is action first, then color.

November 29, 2007
4:27 am
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And I might add, confidence in the baits you are throwing is the most important thing of all.

Something I am lacking right now!!!!

November 29, 2007
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I think your on to something here....

The lure doesn't matter as much. It's the action of the lure and the confidence you have working the lure with the right action and keeping it in the strike zone.

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November 29, 2007
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Well the lure matters in the sense that clearly these fish prefer specific actions one day to another and that some lures , ie Double Cow Girls, Bulldawgs, Grandma's etc. all contain actions that fish like sometimes during the season. Some lures consistently do it better than others. Some lures do it better than others for the exact same brand of lure. Getting confidence with a few lures with color patterns you know the fish will like, whether it is bright or natural, is the real key.

Look at the overall success with black suicks, black reef Hawgs, black and silver mepps, etc. There is something about a well designed, good running bait that catches fish regardless of the color.

Which begs the question as to why I have so many lures ??? ???

November 29, 2007
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Musky Hunter magazine did an article a few years agso regarding color distinction with different clarities of waters. Of all the colors out there, there were only 3 that really stood out in the three water types they tested. Black, Chart. and to a lesser degree flo orange or red. Personally, I think the color definately has something to do with a strike, but I tend to think that action is more important. Under low light situations, color has no bearing at all. I'm sure someone will prove me wrong, but just my opinion.

Sometimes you've got to "jiggle' it, and sometimes you've got to give it one big
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December 1, 2007
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If someone told me i could only have 5 lures.5 of the same lure in five colors,or,5 different lures of only one color{lets say,red.not my fav color}.Without a doubt it would be five different lures.Not sure how to fish deep suspended fish with a reef hog.Just my oppinion.Bob

December 2, 2007
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T- I use the "what would I do" approach and apply the same principals to " if I were a muskie, I would.........." .

Here's an example: I am in the market for a new truck. The very first thing I consider is the overall style of it. I like the look of the Chevy better than the Ford, Dodge, Toyota and Nissan. I am going to buy a Chevy. Once I know this I then consider what color I like. Only a fool buys because of color first.

Example 2: I'm out for dinner. I read the menu and I order a steak. I often don't get past that part of the description to know what kind of fancy reduction sauce it has been prepared with. Furthermore, I don't know how the presentaion (color) is going to be before I commit to ordering it. Quite honestly, it doesn't matter if all I wanted was a steak. Nothing was going to convince me to order something else.

This is why I also have a lure disorder. I say "boy if I were a muskie and I was going to be tricked into eating a piece of wood, I sure would hope it was pretty and cost at least fourty bucks!" No one wants to be the cheap date!

I agree with Greg that some baits just have a little extra magic. While smallmouth fishing this summer, I watched the guy who I was fishing with out fish me four to one using the same bait in the same color pattern. I'm man enough to admit that he is a good fisherman and probably better than me, but he is not four times better! To be fair, we switched rods and location on the boat and the tables completly turned. That bait just had a little something more.

My advice, find a lure that moves fish and stick with it. There is something about it that is getting the fishes attention. Eventually, one is going to take it. This is the confidence that Greg is talking about. -Eric

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