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Bucher Depth Raider hooks question
July 28, 2009
9:06 pm
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Has anyone tried removing the three trebil hooks that come on the depthraiders and using only two 4/0's or 5/0's (one on the front and one on the back hook position)? I did on a few lures and it doesn't seem to affect the action, but I was curious how it might affect the hookup percentage.

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July 28, 2009
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Hey Tim, this might sound corny but i feel its probably a small difference. But i think more hooks prob more hook ups? Right? It reminds me of people saying if u fish more in the morn thats when u prob catch most of ur fish. ha ha My friends would say to me bustin my Balls,Rutan Logic! ha ha ha more very sharp hooks exposed for more fish to stick to. less hooks. who knows ive sounded weird before!! ha ha p.s. i know spinnerbaits have one hook, but thats why people put trailer hooks on for better hook ups? right? like i said, maybe it will work better for u!! dont knock it till u try it!! Good Luck Tim. 😉 Ron ;D

July 28, 2009
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Hey Ron, thanks for the response. More hooks = better hook ups would seem logical, but I have never seen a fish hooked by the back hook on a depthraider. So, I think I am missing some fish because they are not getting hooked by the small front hook or small middle hook while T-boning the bait, who knows though. Anyway, the reason I asked this is because the original hooks on one of my depthraiders are worn down to nubs from so much sharpening and thought about going with fewer and bigger hooks for replacements. Part of the reason for this is because I happen to have lots of good quality 4/0 and 5/0 hooks.

Thanks again, and good fishing!

Tim

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July 29, 2009
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I think its a good idea to up the size of hooks when replacing them. I dont think you will lose that much action

July 29, 2009
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Tim,that would make me a little nervous.Alot of the strikes will have the fish t-boning the bait.Think about how many fish are hooked on either the front hook or the middle hook.

July 29, 2009
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ALL of the fish are hooked on either the front hook or middle hook. That's why I asked, why not hang a big 5/0 on the front and another 'trailer' 5/0 on the back. One would think that big hook up front would take the place of the two smaller hooks, maybe even increase the hook ups. I'll try it out and see how it works, but Bob you have me nervous now!, I'm always nervous tinkering with a bait that works so well right out of the box.

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July 29, 2009
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Ok can I be nervous also 😛

July 29, 2009
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No Matt, thank you for your input, if you say upsizing hooks is a good idea then I feel much better about doing it. 🙂

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July 29, 2009
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Cool Tim, i dont own one of those baits so sorry about info. my hooks are almost all changed to 5/0 and bigger. nubs! holly sharpening!! ha ha Good fishin to you also!! thanks Ron

July 29, 2009
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Tim,i'm wondering why you want to remove a hook from the lure?

July 29, 2009
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Reason being three 5/0 hooks would get all tangled up in each other

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July 29, 2009
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Hey Timmy, my first and biggest fish was caught on the back hook of a bucher. Only had the back hooks buried in it.

July 29, 2009
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I'm not sure what I would do there Timmy. The only thing to do is give it a try. That lure has been very effective the way it is though. Your going to have your missed hook ups on any lure just because the way these fish hit sometimes. later

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September 6, 2009
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So with all of the nice fish Tim has posted over the last 30+ days from the St Lawrence, did you go with (2) 5/0 or (3) 4/0 hooks on the depth raider? I see you caught fish, did you miss any?

I've always wonder why muskie plugs are loaded with hooks when everyone is preaching C&R. Most striper plug builders do exactly what Tim is suggesting and place one large treble hook a little forward of center where a plug may have had 2 med sized belly hooks. Makes for much simpler releases and less damage to the fish.

September 8, 2009
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Mike, I read that too about the striper guys replacing two smaller hooks with one big hook, part of the reason I asked if anyone does that for muskies.

I decided to just buy more 3/0 hooks and stay with the size that comes on the baits, all fish this year were on the 3/0's. I think some of the reason for missing fish is the back two trebiles were getting tangled together when casting the lure out there. So, now when trolling, I just let the lure out slowly making sure the hooks are not tangled up instead of bomb casting it out there.

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Did any one say two big on outside,one smaller one one inside?

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