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5:56 am
bought some straight wire buchertail leaders (pg 125 r+h cat.) for jerk baits. one has a bb swivel one has a crane(?) swivel. whats the difference? what determines when i should use each one or the other? should i use a swivel on my leaders for bucktails? i had a greg thomas leader (pg. 125 #110-268) that was fluro. with 4" wire at one end no swivel at other, attached with dbl. uni-knot. i assume because it was 38" long it was for trolling.????
2:28 pm
August 28, 2007
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Always use a long leader when trolling, always. I would deffinitly always use a barrell swivel when throwing bucktails or your lines going to be a twisted up mess. I really like the "stringease" snaps. They have a "saftey" on them so they don't pop open.
ITS NOT THE SIZE OF YOUR BOAT
ITS THE SIZE OF WHATS ON YOUR BUMPBOARD!
M.T.F
7:30 am
thanks, any idea why that greg thomas leader had no swivel? ::)
1:45 pm
Swivels are mainly used for any lures who turn and can twist you line.. bucktails..etc. I am not sure why Greg's don't come with a swivel..I don't use them, so maybe someone who does can help you.
As for the crane swivel vs the bb swivel.. The bb swivels turn much easier and smoother, but I make my own leaders and have been using SPRO crane swivels and don't notice a diference.. the main thing is the crane are usually 60%-80% cheaper then the BB. So for the price diference i use the crane.
2:01 am
April 29, 2007
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I checked out that leader and all it is is a 3 ft. piece of 80# flouro that is tied to the main line with a uni to uni knot, the flouro is tied to a short piece of straight wire attached to a stringease snap. It sound's like nothing out of the ordinary, and I sort of doubt I'll start hammering 50 inchers by using one of these leaders, as mentioned in the description. 😉
I use a swivel all the time, whether it's on pre bought stealth 130# flouro or my homade 140# straight wire leaders. No good reason, it's just what I prefer and have always used. Many musky fishermen have had great success not using swivels too.
Team MTF
1:13 pm
i for one have stopped using snaps.to me there starting to be a pain in the ass changing lures back an forth.i use a bucher an or owner split ring on my leaders so much easier changin baits. an if you ask me there as fail proof as it gets.
lehigh
11:02 pm
October 1, 2008
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Tim,
Don't the split rings get loose or begin to open up after you change baits a few times?
2:22 am
April 29, 2007
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not if it's a bucher split ring
Team MTF
3:15 am
can you use the split ring technique on all types of leaders? (fluro.,steel, etc.)
3:26 am
April 29, 2007
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Flouro, no. Steel, yes. With flouro and an 80# knot (palomar knot and something I use for small buckails or other stuff), which would not handle constant abuse from putting a spling ring on and off, just use a #4 or #5 stringease snap. With 130# fluro from stealth they are crimped and replacing a splt ring over the life of the leader would deteriate the most imprtant part of the leader, the end. Use a stringease #5 snap.
In my opinion, use a snap with flouro and use a split ring or snap with straight wire.
Team MTF
2:23 am
April 10, 2010
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This past spring Gene Seuring of Leeders and Lures contacted me to take his son-in-law out on the water. Found out that he makes killer quality leaders. I've been using his Disappearing Pink Floro Carbon all season and won't switch until I find something better.
He'll make custom sizes to order. You should check it out. Even makes custom blades for bucktails with logo or pic on the blade. Imagine the possibilities... lol.
Anyway... his contact info...ooops. Before I step in it again guys is it okay to post his contact info? Let me know. I think the product is great and got some for our VP.
Cal
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